[Wikipedia-l] Ban warning to GrahamN

Thu Sep 5 17:54:19 UTC 2002

Ed,

For this to be useful, I would need to know what talk pages you are
refering to. Also, although I should know and presumably GrahamN should
too, it wouldn't hurt to tell us how to link to MetaWikipedia (maybe it's
just a page in Wikipedia, for all I know). Also POV is a term of art; it
might help if you spelled it out.

I also, without knowing what he did, find your message rather ambiguous and
difficult to understand; perhaps he understands it better since he knows
the context.

Fred

>I placed the following notice on GrahamN's user page:
>----
>Please refrain from giving your opinion in the Talk pages. Personal
>opinions of contributors are welcome in the MetaWikipedia (where, by the
>way, April is hosting a debate) -- as well as on your own User page.
>
>Article talk pages are for discussion of how to improve the article. If
>there is a point of view (POV) that you happen to agree with, which you
>think ought to be represented in the article, then please focus on how to
>describe that POV. Avoid arguing for or against any POV. Instead, help
>your co-contributors to learn which proponents advocate the POV, and what
>reasons those advocates give.
>
>For example, Joe Camel might say, "I hate Jews because they smell like
>lox." We need not debate how often an odor of lox is detectable in the
>vicinity of Jews (my Mom, who is Jewish, made me an excellent lox sandwich
>over Labor Day, by the way). We need not debate whether smelling like lox
>is a "good" reason to hate someone. All that matters is whether or not to
>mention Joe Camel's POV in some Wikipedia article. And if some contributor
>decides to describe that POV, we might debate the best choice of words to
>describe it.
>
>This is a warning: any more personal or provocative remarks, and I will
>will ban you for a day. --Ed Poor, sysop
>----
>
>Ed Poor
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