[Wikipedia-l] Plz stop harrassing Helga

Tue Dec 3 15:29:20 UTC 2002

On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 07:15:58AM -0800, Toby Bartels wrote:
>See, Lir sees things in highly politicised terms,
>and is a leftist (an anarcosocial-communist, to be precise),

No.  He adopts the rhetoric of libertian socialism, but is really a
burn-and-smash nihilist.  Not the same thing at all, and rather a
discredit to freedom lovers everywhere.

>while Helga's edits could easily be seen as rightwing
>(perhaps sympathetic to Nazis, and definitely antiCommunist).

Even libertarian socialists are firmly opposed to Marxism, Leninism, and
Stalinism. As for the Nazis, they were socialists too.

>If Lir does see them that way, and thus identifies Helga as an enemy,
>the naturally this is just what she would do!

In which case we should deny Lir the impression that he is still able to
manipulate or have an effect on the Wikipedia.

Helga does seem to have returned; I haven't seen a long string of edit
wars like before; I hope she talks to Jimmy.  When I saw her reply on
her talk page, I assumed her account had actually been unblocked in the
database itself.

Jonathan

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