[WikiEN-l] (no subject)

Sat Jan 13 23:56:23 UTC 2007

We'll be a step into the right direction if people try to improve some
articles before nominating them for deletion.
Sure, you CAN speedy an article for failing to claim notability, but if a
quick google search shows beyond a shadow of a doubt it is notable and you
can add a few words to prove it, it's really not the most produvtive
endeavor to delete something.

I see a lot of deletion discussions questioning notability when the
nominator has no real idea about the subject. Perhaps when can have a
separate page for notability discussions to avoid having them nominated for
deletion ebefore we have all the facts.

Mgm

On 1/12/07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I personally fear systemic bias on wikipedia is being squeezed from
> two directions concurrently at the moment.
>
> The way AFD currently works means that pages which are not on many
> users watchlists is uniquely vulnerable to AFD-wonks predation. So
> that means that the bias stemming from our communitys composition not
> only affects what gets created but also what gets deleted. This
> two-way squeeze worries me.
>
> Although I commend in general terms the drive to emphasize quality
> over quantity, to me at least that does not extend so far as to
> emphasizing removal of content over creation of it. And this is a
> question that should at least be addressed. I think it would be useful
> if the board and or Jimbo uttered something on the matter to let us
> know how they view the question in general on this mailing list.
>
> I do not wish to make this a discussion of specific examples but
> rather a more general definition of guiding principles. But if
> necessary for illustrating the reality of the issue, I will find some
> examples to ground it in reality. I really don't think such is
> necessary, and would much prefer to discuss the matter under a "veil
> of ignorance" about which particular areas are most vulnerable, and in
> the abstract.
>
> So how about it? Even if we accept that quantity is *less* important
> than the quality, is creation still preferred over removal?
>
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