[WikiEN-l] Process wonkery

Sun Sep 24 23:42:07 UTC 2006

Note that notability is not the policy. Verifiability is. Even if a
school is notable "by default", as some claim, if there is no verifiable
information about it, there should be no article.

Guettarda wrote:
> On 9/23/06, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23/09/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a hardened attitude formed by people on VFD as it was who
>> wanted to delete all schools from Wikipedia below the notability level
>> of Eton. That is: the process was pathological on both sides.
> 
> 
> Quite frankly I am anything but a deletionist, but I think that a school
> with 75 students and no other claim to notability doesn't deserve a
> Wikipedia article
> 
> So let's assume every school will be in Wikipedia on the same basis
>> that every pissweak or even no-longer-existent hamlet in the US will
>> remain. What can be done then?
>>
>> * Is existence enough? Evidently.
>> * So we need proof of existence and basic verifiable information.
> 
> 
>  There is a long-established tradition of notability for Wikipedia
> articles.  We delete things that are non-notable.  People who say "all
> schools are notable" aren't discussing an issue, they are espousing an
> ideology.  Some people who home-school their children register a school.  By
> that token, anyone home-schooling their children is notable enough for
> inclusion, so the only barrier then is verifiability
> 
> There should be enough for a stub at the very least. If you want to
>> turn it into a list entry instead, the redirect needs to be in the
>> appropriate place.
>>
>> If you're bringing this to wikien-l to re-fight the school deletion
>> wars, you're probably not spending your time well.
> 
> 
> You really shouldn't be calling the kettle black David ;)
> 
> - d.
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