[WikiEN-l] Process wonkery

Sat Sep 23 17:22:05 UTC 2006

On 23 Sep 2006, at 17:46, David Gerard wrote:

> On 23/09/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> The problem with the DRV is that the existence of a number of votes
>> from obdurate "all schools are inherently notable" types means that
>> vote counting gives no consensus, whereas a comparison of arguments
>> from policy - specifically verifiability and hence the ability to
>> cover the subject objectively - shows a clear delete.
>
>
> This is a hardened attitude formed by people on VFD as it was who
> wanted to delete all schools from Wikipedia below the notability level
> of Eton. That is: the process was pathological on both sides.
>
> So let's assume every school will be in Wikipedia on the same basis
> that every pissweak or even no-longer-existent hamlet in the US will
> remain. What can be done then?
>
> * Is existence enough? Evidently.
> * So we need proof of existence and basic verifiable information.
>
> There should be enough for a stub at the very least. If you want to
> turn it into a list entry instead, the redirect needs to be in the
> appropriate place.
>
> If you're bringing this to wikien-l to re-fight the school deletion
> wars, you're probably not spending your time well.

We can still give moral support. If content
cannot be verified, it should be taken out.
The onus is on the people adding the
information to provide verification.