On 11/29/06, Guettarda <guettarda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/29/06, The Cunctator <cunctator(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm mildly sorry for taking the shortcut of asking the list about things I
could figure out by wading through the insanely complicated policy pages,
but here goes-- if you think a page that went through the AfD process was
wrongly deleted, what is the proper action?
How wrong is it for an admin to undelete a page?
It is a cardinal sin. If a page is deleted as a result of *fD it MUST go
through DRV - despite the fact that "Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy",
undeletion can only be done if the correct forms are filled out in
triplicate, lost, found again... (I can't remember the rest of how that
goes, but you end up having your house bulldozed).
In addition, DRV is the place where people comment, not on the merits of the
deletion, but on whether the deletion was "in process" or "out of
process".
It doesn't matter if the article was about [[World War II]] and the
discussion only involved three people would voted delete on the grounds of
"never heard of it", DRV is supposed to comment on process, not merits of
deletion (you'll be told "that's what *fD is for, and you should have
commented when you had the chance).
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Wait...
I went and read our policy on undeletion ([[WP:UNDEL]]) , and it
definitely lists "If the article has been wrongly deleted (i.e. that
Wikipedia would be a better encyclopedia with the article restored). "
as a valid reason for undeletion (in fact, as the first reason). Given
that we 'know' that DRV is only for process auditing, I looked farther
down... behold! there is a section entitled "To request that a page
(or image) be restored", except that this section only tells you to
list the page on DRV... Catch -22 anyone?
Either we need to change WP:UNDEL to conform to current practice, or
we need to give quite a few people a cluebat beating.
Sincerely,
Silas Snider
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Dislike Making Broad Judgements About the Worthiness of a General Category
of Article, and Who Are In Favor of the Deletion of Some Particularly Bad
Articles, but That Doesn't Mean They are Deletionist
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