[WikiEN-l] GNAA Deleted!

Wed Nov 29 09:13:05 UTC 2006

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

>Wikipedia isn't consistent.. We shouldn't let the fact the thousands
>of things are done wrong be an excuse for doing things incorrectly.
>
That some are done wrong is a characterization that may not be 
relevant.  What may be wrong for one subject area need not be wrong for 
another subject area.

>We accept open submission so if we allow the existance of examples in
>wikipedia to drive our standards we will, in effect, have no
>standards. I'm sure that would make some people, people editing for
>their own self-interests, happy but it would not be good.
>
Except for very clear POV pushers. whether some person is editing for 
his "own self-interest" cannot usually be determined from the 
examination of one article; it is a function of his work viewed as a whole.

>Thankfully this point is already obvious to most...
>
Obvious to you does no imply obvious to most.

Ec

>On 11/28/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>>On 11/28/06, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>This is a discussion about wikipedia, however, and not wikinews.
>>>There are some subjects that an encyclopedia can not and should not
>>>touch because there is simply no real research on the subjects yet.
>>>      
>>>
>>We are not applying that standard to any number of popular culture subjects,
>>for which there exists no serious research on the particular aspect of
>>popular culture.  There is research into popular culture as a whole, and
>>there are for example literary and sociological journals dedicated to
>>serious review of aspects of popular culture in many different media (one
>>distant electronic aquaintence has a masters degree in the literary review
>>of science fiction, to somewhat oversimplify).
>>
>>But the vast majority of popular culture items have not been subjected to
>>independent research and are not documentable other than the particular item
>>of culture itself.
>>
>>We have nearly *all* that documented, right now.
>>