[WikiEN-l] [Arbcom-l] Fwd: simple example

Mon Nov 27 23:18:16 UTC 2006

On 11/27/06, Rob Smith <nobs03 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/27/06, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Rob Smith wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/25/06, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Kiko is still alive. What is this innocent person, who is leading an
> > >> ordinary life, doing on Wikipedia with false information about him?
> > >>
> > >> Fred
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Wow Fred. Another extraordinary coincidence in this case (I count
> > > about four now).  Turns out Kiko's papers are closer to where I've
> > > been sitting and working the past few years than the bathroom I use.
> > >
> > > http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:E2qQtWlea6gJ:libxml.unm.edu/
> > > rmoa/content/nmu/finished/nmu1mss640bc.html+Francisco+E.+Mart%C3%
> > > ADnez+Defense+Committee+(FEMDC),&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
> > >
> > > Looks like I unwittingly may have become another unathorized
> > > biographer of another activist.
> > >
> > > Now we see it wasn't past associations with Chip Berlet, or the NLG,
> > > why your transformed a Content Dispute into something it was not.  It
> > > was a close and apparantly longtime personal friendship with Fransisco
> > > I. Martinez.
> > >
> > > Nobs01
> > >
> >
> > Interesting. "After he was exonerated, Martinez was reinstated to the
> > bar. He continues to live and practice law in Alamosa, Colorado,
> > where he remains involved in community and social activism." We are
> > on speaking terms, but "longtime personal friendship" would be a
> > gross exaggeration.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
>
> Wikipedia says, "Ken Lay... best known for his role in the
> widely-reported corruption scandal... was found guilty on May 25,
> 2006, of 10 counts against him..."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lay
>
> And "Oliver North was...indicted on sixteen felony counts and ...
> convicted of three...", replete with a mugshot
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North#Iran-Contra_affair
>
> One dead one living.  But in neither article are they refered to as "innocent".
>
> This source says, "Martinez was brought to trial by the Immigration
> and Naturalization Service ... and convicted ... ".
>
> So it appears, just as dispute resolution, it depends who your friends
> are in being able to push POV.
>
>
> Nobs01
>