[WikiEN-l] Systemic bias wrt gender

Sat Nov 25 01:15:20 UTC 2006

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Puppy stated for the record:

> Would our "welcoming attitude" to women and "being on the lookout for 
> bad behavior and mitigating its effects" include chastising men who make 
> overtly sexist and insulting remarks? Alphax made such remarks, and thus 
> far two people have spoken up - Mindspillage, a female; and Guettarda.
> 
> When I first started contributing to this thread I received a number of 
> emails, all from women, all thanking me and encouraging me, yet none of 
> them posted to the list. Now I know why. There is no longer any question 
> of whether there is gender bias on WP: it has been demonstrated here. 
> Sean actually attacked Guettarda for calling bigotry what it is - now, 
> if someone had made comments similar to Alphax's about a minority ethnic 
> group, would anyone have kept quiet? Would Sean have called someone 
> speaking up against it "malicious needling", as he characterized 
> Guettarda's comments? How is Guettarda's email "malicious needling", yet 
> Alphax's overt misogyny doesn't even rate a comment?

Damned right I pointed out his malicious needling.  Guettarda began
attacking Alphax only after Alphax had stopped his admittedly hostile
remarks, saying "I'm putting myself on moderation."  So, please explain:
Is launching personal attacks at a person who has said he is refraining
from responding a virtue?  If Guettarda had succeeded in provoking an
angry response from Alphax, would he be considered even more admirable?

Demonize enough people vigorously enough, and some of them will, oddly,
decide that since they have been cast in it, they might as well enjoy
the role.

- --
 Sean Barrett     | I was forced to live for days
 sean at epoptic.com | on nothing but food and water.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFFZ5ko/SVOiq2uhHMRAjFDAJ0XW5ZSiINunjtkmkZzOGpJ4xd3LgCeINyX
OGIlwan5vSytwAOc8adN3pU=
=WKmE
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----