[WikiEN-l] Bad And Wrong Policy/Procedure/Guideline Hitlist

Sat Nov 4 02:39:24 UTC 2006

On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 04:35:26PM -0500, Phil Sandifer wrote:
> [[WP:DRV]]. Allegedly set up to hear procedural cases, it has become  
> a court of appeal whereby procedure is considered sporadically, and  
> more often, where decisions that are unpopular among the main clique  
> that watches DRV get overturned with no further chance of appeal. It  
> has become one of the worst examples of a de facto committee on en,  
> and is far past the point where any of its decisions should be  
> considered binding.
> 
> All of our notability guidelines, which fit together to provide a  
> completely ludicrous overall picture. (It's far easier to get onto  
> Wikipedia as a pornographic actor than as a webcartoonist. Or, if you  
> want to ) These are a mess of kludges created to sort out a momentary  
> instance where six or seven articles of a given topic got AfDed in a  
> short time period, leading to a guideline, usually written primarily  
> by the people who wanted the articles deleted. We have, meanwhile, no  
> generalizable criteria for notability, and thus no useful end in  
> sight for these guidelines.
> 
> [[WP:RFA]], which, like notability, lacks any consensus anymore on  
> what the overall standards should be, and has thus degenerated into  
> utter madness.
> 
> [[WP:FA]] and to a lesser extent [[WP:GA]], which, like RFA, suffer  
> from such a wildly disparate set of standards that the process of  
> passing them is more a process of politics than of actual quality.
> 
> [[WP:RS]] still stands, due to the lack of passage of [[WP:ATT]].  
> It's still as big a problem as ever.

OK, I passed on 4 of your [[WP:TLA]]s and failed on 2. Please write in
english.

[[User:Bduke]]

> Best,
> Phil Sandifer
> sandifer at english.ufl.edu
> 
> You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a  
> boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2006, at 11:43 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> 
> >What policies/procedures/guidelines on en:wp strike you as just awful?
> >Please list and elaborate.
> >
> >This could be in any of purpose, current wording, ineffectuality or
> >just being a completely bad idea. Or anything else that makes it just
> >awful.
> >
> >
> >- d.
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