[WikiEN-l] Delete Daniel Brandt

Sun Jun 11 17:45:00 UTC 2006

No good, compared to the real enemies of free expression, Daniel  
Brandt is just a nuisance. Some things just come with the territory.

Fred

On Jun 11, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Phil Sandifer wrote:

> Daniel Brandt is a notable public figure. By all rights, he should
> have an article in Wikipedia. And the article we have on him is a
> good one.
>
> We should also, after contacting Brandt, delete it.
>
> I don't know if you all caught what Brandt and the folks at Wikipedia
> Review did to me last month. If you didn't, here: http://
> www.boingboing.net/2006/05/22/u_florida_cops_ask_f.html Basically,
> someone on Wikipedia Review contacted my University to express
> concern that I was a murderer, and I got to deal with a week of being
> the subject of a police investigation that demanded my fingerprints.
>
> In my case, who I am is public knowledge, and I decided to make it
> that way. But that's not the case for everyone on Brandt's Hive Mind
> site. A lot of them are people who didn't accept their RFA expecting
> that they'd have their names, cities of residence, and photos
> released. Nobody on Wikipedia, I don't think, realized that accepting
> adminship meant painting a target on yourself, and, frankly, on your
> family and friends.
>
> The Foundation doesn't and can't provide admins with protection here.
> And we need protection. The other admins on this site should not get
> to go through what I did, or any of the far worse things that can and
> will eventually happen to us.
>
> But, after thinking about it, its my belief that the Foundation owes
> its editors and admins the protections it can give. And one of those
> is offering to delete Brandt's article in exchange for the removal of
> the Hive Mind site. It's an awful trade. It's a horrible, awful
> trade. We should hate making it, and we should hate Brandt for
> forcing us to make it.
>
> But we should make it. Because the consequences of not making it are
> just too dangerous.
>
> -Phil
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