[WikiEN-l] issue with an admin refusing to allow me "right tovanish"

Thu Dec 21 21:57:23 UTC 2006

It's hard to tell.  I've deleted User Talk pages before, but have also 
declined to delete them before.  I've never had a problem deleting User Talk 
pages for newer users who want to 'quit', especially if all thats on their 
page is welcome messages and/or orphanbot notices.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MacGyverMagic/Mgm" <macgyvermagic at gmail.com>
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at wikipedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] issue with an admin refusing to allow me "right 
tovanish"

> Sounds reasonable, but how do we make the distinction between
> 'indispensible' an 'of interest'? Should we leave a note on the page that 
> an
> admin is willing to retrieve info from deletion should be be needed?
>
> Mgm
>
>
> On 12/21/06, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
>>
>> MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
>> > It's the hidden from non-admins part that is a problem.
>> > If you did any significant editing, the discussions on your talk page
>> could
>> > be of interest to other editors even after you leave. It could be 
>> > tagged
>> as
>> > belonging to a left user, it can be protected from trolls, and it might
>> even
>> > be blankable, but it cannot be deleted.
>>
>> In general, I do not agree with this approach.  Allowing people to
>> vanish, including deleting their user and user_talk pages, is often the
>> best way to part company with dignity.  "Could be of interest" should
>> not be the standard, I think, but rather "Is indispensable to the
>> functioning of the encyclopedia."
>>
>> There can be exceptions, of course.  If a user repeatedly joins and
>> deletes (perhaps sockpuppeting), causing a lot of disruptive demands to
>> delete their userpage, we could just ignore it if that seemed like the
>> best way to deal with it.
>>
>> But in general, I see no reason to have a general policy of keeping talk
>> pages around that make someone who would like to leave us unhappy.
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