[WikiEN-l] Indefinite block and desysopping by User:Danny

Thu Apr 20 21:37:52 UTC 2006

On 4/20/06, slimvirgin at gmail.com <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/20/06, Matt Brown <morven at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it the right of every administrator to second-guess the
> > administrative actions of any other administrator, and instantly
> > revert them if they feel justified?
> >
> > The culture of feeling entitled to instantly revert, though, is quite
> > damaging.
> >
> Exactly right. Some admins have adopted a definition of "wheel
> warring" that excludes the first revert of an admin action -- so that
> if X blocks, and Y unblocks, Y is not wheel warring. But if X restores
> the block, X has started the wheel war. This is nonsense. The first
> person to undo the original admin action has started the wheel war,
> and it's that first undoing that shouldn't be happening as a rule.

I concur entirely with Sarah's definition of when a wheel war begins. 
This culture of "free whacks at the post" has to go.  NOBODY is
entitled to revert without discussion.  3RR says we're willing to
tolerate it for regular editors.  Admins are expected to be above
this.  Any admin who doesn't want to play by this rule is invited to
visit [[m:Requests for permissions]].

Kelly