[WikiEN-l] On notability and speedies

Thu Sep 15 18:07:33 UTC 2005

Tony,

Fair point in that I used the words wrongly 

However, I feel that my words have been taken out of context. I was 
responding to a admin who was claiming that the word notable should not be 
used in AfD discussions and he would speedy keep any votes in which the word 
was used.

My point was, and remains, that notability is a central concept in AfD 
discussions as much as verifiability. If a user wishes to assert that the 
article is worthy of an A7 speedy delete on the grounds that it isn't 
notable, it should be open for him or her to do so. 

I feel that my words have been taken out of context in this thread.

On 9/16/05, Tony Sidaway <minorityreport at bluebottle.com> wrote:
> 
> Keith Old writes:
> 
> 
> "After all, one of the reasons for Speedy Deletion is that an article has 
> not
> established notability of the subject."
> 
> 
> No. Lots of our articles don't *establish* notability, and they're not
> speediable at all. The A7 CSD is for articles that don't *assert*
> notability. If an article contains a (reasonably credible) claim of
> notability, that is enough to take it out of the category. The criterion
> is somewhat elastic, but there is apparently some ongoing work to tighten
> it, by providing illustrative examples or otherwise. So if you write an
> article "Bobby Moore, a player for West Ham, was the captain of the 1966
> World Cup winning England football team", it stop far short of
> establishing notability (no references) but it does undeniably *assert*
> notability.
> 
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