[WikiEN-l] Images on user pages

Wed Sep 14 19:24:59 UTC 2005

I always thought it was improper that the exports
contain our userpages. A simple script could replace
all of these with a hardlink to the proper wikipedia
page, with a disclaimer.

SV

--- Daniel Mayer <maveric149 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Fastfission <fastfission at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I also think it's important that people KNOW that
> the User namespace
> > could easily be re-used as well as any other, so
> that the whole
> > "you're an editor on the Nazi encyclopedia"
> scenario doesn't seem so
> > invasive and awful when it inevitably happens, and
> people realize that
> > if they post pictures of themselves and their dog
> on a site which
> > purports to be free for reuse, it might just get
> reused! Unless we
> > specifically say that User pages are licensed in
> some other way --
> > which I'm not necessarily opposed to, because
> they're not really meant
> > to be part of the "encyclopedia" -- I don't think
> we should allow
> > people to have the impression that they are.
> 
> It is still perfectly reasonable for a person to
> naturally want to show an
> image of themselves or other Wikipedias at say a
> WikiMeet without having to
> release those images under a license that would
> allow for extensive reuse. Out
> of respect to users, who contribute without pay and
> just for the fun of it, we
> have always been a bit lax on what users do with
> their user pages. 
> 
> Again, the *reason* the image use copyright policy
> forbids NC and special use
> images is that having those images in articles makes
> reuse needlessly difficult
> (even though such use is perfectly fine under GNU
> FDL). So given that, and the
> fact that user pages are not part of the
> encyclopedia, I think we should allow
> some image licenses for images on user pages and
> even the Wikipedia namespace
> that we would not allow in the article namespace. 
> 
> The only issue as I see it, is that we don’t give
> reusers the option to not
> download user pages and other Wikipedia-specific
> pages. But that is a current
> technical problem; not a valid reason to forever
> forbid NC and special use
> images in the user or Wikipedia namespaces. 
> 
> Forbidding such images for no practical reason
> smacks of fascism to me. So once
> the technical issue I mentioned is fixed, I see no
> valid reason for us to not
> be more permissive on image licensing in the user
> namespace (within the limits
> of WP:NOT a personal web page provider) 
> 
> -- mav
> 
> 
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