[WikiEN-l] Article deletion

Wed Sep 14 01:33:54 UTC 2005

JAY JG wrote:

>> From: Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca>
>>
>> Hear hear. Instead of moving VfD to AfD, we might as well have moved 
>> it to "Wikiproject Deletion." The last thing we need is a group of 
>> people who _specialize_ in deciding what articles are allowed in 
>> Wikipedia. The small, obscure articles don't get many people from 
>> outside the VfD regulars to consider the matter.
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> The last thing we need is a group of specialists who actually care 
> about what kinds of articles are encyclopedic, and fall within 
> Wikipedia's mandate and policies, and what kinds are not?

The problem is not that they "care", but that they're the ones who are 
_deciding_.

And a VfD that's justified with the code "NN, D" is clearly not the work 
of someone who cares, IMO. The fact that such VfDs aren't removed out of 
hand is what makes me so concerned with the current system.

>  Who aren't actually emotionally tied up in the subject matter, but 
> instead are able to view the topic with dispassionate reason?

Who don't actually know anything about the subject matter, but instead 
come up with a vote based on a moment's thought about whether they've 
heard of it before?

I'm not going to go through and state the flipside of every point you 
make, hopefully this is sufficiently illustrative. Different people have 
very different views on what's "good", and a heck of a lot of people 
(myself included) are voicing views that the current system is ungood. 
In the spirit of consensus-building, please at least consider that maybe 
things will have to change to satisfy the complainers, but that perhaps 
there's some system to change to that we will all like. This doesn't 
have to be adversarial.