[WikiEN-l] Deletion suggestion

Tue Sep 13 14:13:07 UTC 2005

Keith Old wrote:
> While I appreciate people are trying to think of ways to improve a process 
> which they perceive as deficient, that process and others not involving a 
> central process open to all users would end up working very inconsistently 
> with articles being deleted or not at the whim of which admin comes through 
> at a particular time.
> 
> Let us look at an article about a person who is notable in Australia but not 
> elsewhere (for example) which is in a poor state. Editor A comes and tags 
> the article for deletion. Editor B comes through and deletes it. Neither 
> editor is aware of the significance of the person in Australia and the 
> article is deleted.
> 
> If it was listed on articles for deletion, an editor or editors from 
> Australia could argue for its retention and improve it meaning we have a 
> better article. 
> 

This is why I proposed splitting AFD by topic, and look where it got
me... I remember when I was more active on the [[WP:AWNB]] that we had a
section for "Australia-related articles on VFD", sometimes we would keep
these out of mainstream VFD, and we would perform the same courtesy to
other regional noticeboards.

> Apart from that, I suspect that the undeletion process will become unclogged 
> with many accusations of editors/admins acting in bad faith.
> 

I concur. Under PWDS there is too much room to assume bad faith. Either
people will leave over month-long revert wars, or we will have groups of
sysops running around protecting and unprotecting articles in order to
try and "keep" or "delete" them.

> I will flag now that I will not vote for any proposal unless that I am 
> pretty sure that it will improve the system. I will not vote for any 
> proposal which removes the deletion process from the scrutiny of ordinary 
> users.
> 

Indeed. Hence my scepticism of the "hidden semi-deleted pages" option.

Damn, I feel like being bold and just going and...

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