[WikiEN-l] Re: Webcomics/Deletion again

Thu Oct 27 05:57:31 UTC 2005

geni wrote:

>On 10/27/05, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
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>>One edit for each VfD, obviously, but I don't see how the number of
>>edits one has to make in the course of sticking "NN, D" on a page makes
>>"NN, D" any more meaningful. Should my vote be disregarded because I
>>didn't put enough effort into provide adequate evidence that I'd
>>considered the case and had a valid reason for voting the way I did? If
>>so, I would gladly withdraw those poorly-supported votes I made since
>>that's exactly the thing I was complaining about in the first place. A
>>policy like that would remove the whole basis of my objection.
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>No it shoulds be dissregarded because WP:POINT. I take it you conceed
>that the nominator did in fact take more effort to nominate than you
>did to vote.
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Can we disregard ComCat's nominations in the same vein, then? My point 
is that the number of clicks isn't relevant to the amount of effort the 
nomination itself reflects. If I'd cast my votes using an elabourate 
system of voice-to-speech hex editing via a telnet session, or whatever, 
that doesn't make what I wrote any more or less valid.

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>>As it is there's probably one or two of those articles that I will be
>>going back and retracting my "keeps" for based on other peoples' more
>>detailed comments in response to these nominations. But those "keeps"
>>were IMO a reasonable default reaction to this kind of nonsense.
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>Can you prove it is nonsense? Today hasn't been the best day for
>wikipedia running times. Listing things on AFD under those conditions
>is a pain.
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"NN, D" provides no information on which to make a case. And if 
Wikipedia's sluggishness is irrelevant, once an edit window is open 
there isn't any further communication with the webserver until "save 
changes" is clicked. There's plenty of time to type up a justification 
for one's vote. If there isn't time for other reasons, then why not wait 
until there _is_ time? There isn't a deadline.