[WikiEN-l] Policy on breaches of bans

Fred Bauder fredbaud at ctelco.net
Sat Oct 22 14:03:29 UTC 2005


I think we should block the range, making it clear who (real name,  
etc) is responsible and let Australia sort it out.

Fred

On Oct 22, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Anthony DiPierro wrote:

> On 10/21/05, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> We can't block his IP-range, if understand it he's editing from
>> 203.xxx and 141.xxx. That's 1/128th of the entire internet
>> (approximately)!
>>
>
>  How is he able to do this? Is there a particular ISP which uses  
> these IPs,
> or is he going from multiple IPs, or what? Can the ISP be  
> contacted? That'd
> be the first step. Failing that, I'd actually suggest trying to get  
> some
> sort of injunction through the legal system (Australia, I suppose,  
> and one
> of the other editors claims to actually have known the person).  
> "Don't touch
> Wikipedia again, or you'll go to jail." That'd probably work.
>  I honestly don't think blocking is a very useful long-term solution,
> especially in an environment where the blocks are implemented by
> semi-trusted volunteers. If Wikimedia had an employee with full  
> developer
> access who knew the ins and outs of the Internet and whose job it  
> was to
> block vandals (using both technical tools and well-placed phone  
> calls to
> established contacts at ISPs), that might work. Of course, there  
> are 168
> hours in a week, so even working 42 hour weeks it'd take 4  
> employees to
> handle the job 24/7. Those employees would certainly have time to  
> do other
> things as well, but even so it's probably too expensive for now (rough
> guesstimate $150,000/year). Hopefully the new deal with
> answers.com<http://answers.com>will start bringing in some serious
> revenue and something like this can be
> considered.
>  Anthony
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