On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, at 02:31 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Tony Sidaway wrote:
Ashida Kim may be a popular author, and we should
note his books, but
we
don't need to host his interminable catfights.
And if he _is_ a popular author, we ought to be able to find some
evidence of it. (Finding isbn numbers in amazon for admittedly
self-published books is not sufficient for me personally. There's
nothing wrong with self-publishing, but if I'm interested in
notability,
I'd want some sort of external verification.)
--Jimbo
Yeah - just remember that AfD isn't a one-time process. Often with all
the mirror hits and whatnot wikipedia gets it makes it difficult for
people to verify what's real and what's not (this applies to every
subject, especially original research).
The Ashida Kim nomination is a good case. If someone looks at the last
VfD it was nearly to keep. Now in this one it was initially all to
keep, then the regulars like myself began to come in, and now as you
see the deletes are starting to pile on. Probably won't result in that
though - one of the things is that a lot of people don't change their
vote much (I and some regulars do though), so often a subject has to be
renominated a few times before there is finally a consensus on the
issue, as many times it finally gets deleted mostly because the people
who voted keep in the last discussion see the "new" arguments there (it
would be either if they kept a close eye on the conversation though).
So, it works more or less... sometimes it just takes a few tries for
either deletion or keeping :). Its not perfect though :\.
Thanks,
Ryan
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