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From: "Jim Cecropia" <jcecropia(a)mail.com>
I will make one addendum to my comments below.
Houghton and GeorgeStepanek alternated three reverts, with Houghton making the last, then
Taxman made another revert. Then Houghton reverts that (fourth revert) and is blocked.
Then Taxman made another revert, but Houghton is blocked, and that ends that.
Having two people on one side of a disagreement play "tag team" on reverts
(consciously or not) is a violation of the spirit, if not exactly the wording, of the 3RR.
In effect, Taxman's first and second reverts were really GeorgeStepanek's fourth
and fifth. Result: one side in an article can always win AND get the opposition blocked so
long as they have one more supporter than the other side.
This 3RR gamesmanship has to end. Ask an admin to protect the article and take it to the
talk page.
--Cecropia
To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: I have unblocked Blair P. Houghton. Re: [WikiEN-l] Unreasonableblock of user
Blair P. Houghton by adminCryptoDerk
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:09:30 -0400
I have unblocked Blair P. Houghton so that he can defend himself in
the appropriate forums on Wikipedia.
The 3RR blocking is being extremely abused, IMO. We sometimes give
actual anon vandals who trash articles more slack than some
logged-in users that have an honest difference of opinion. I am an
amateur body builder for 20 years. I am no expert but, like many
who enjoy the sport, I've studied a good bit about it. Either the
prior version or Houghton's version are accurate, and I believe
Houghton's is a bit better written and more reflects the
state-of-the-art.
HOWEVER, I am not taking a position on which version should stand,
just indicating that I know Houghton's version is, at least, not
vandalism.
The 3RR, as I've stated elsewhere, is a loose cannon which tends to
favor the status-quo. If the there is a content dispute, the better
solution is to protect the article for a limited time to get the
combatants to hash out the issue in article talk. In the instant
case, I notice that GeorgeStepanek, for example, numbered his
reverts ("first, second, third") which telegraphs consciousness of
the 3RR as a trap, then another editor who disagrees with Houghton
picked up on the reverting.
The 3RR page says that you will not necessarily be blocked for 3RR,
it is admin's discretion. CryptoDerk used his discretion to block;
I ordinarily will not get in the way of another admin's judgment,
but in this case I've used my discretion to unblock.
I caution Blair P. Houghton to take his arguments about the article
to its talk page for now, and to argue about his being blocked in
other forums.
I also must state that, as Houghton infers, neither truth nor
accuracy is determined by consensus, and that is NOT a comment
specifically on the Weight Training article.
-Cecropia
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