On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:16:18 -0000 (GMT), Tony
Sidaway That doesn't
make sense to me. I do understand the argument that
tempbans
where seen as unjust could drive away good
editors, but so can seriously
bad behavior. If a week's rest from editing
a few
articles is *worse*
than editing those articles in the presence of
the
behavior about which
one wants to make a complaint, I just don't
see
that the complaint can be
that serious.
Tony, you'd be right if tempbanning were the only
problem, but there
is a perception (as is clearly shown by this thread)
that there is a
philosophy of seeking to punish both sides
regardless of the issues,
in an effort to bend over backwards to be fair -
which I argue is
actually leading to unfairness in some cases. It is
this philosophy
that is worrying, and the issue of tempbanning
everyone is simply one
example of it. Also, in Andy's case, the proposed
tempban covered
areas not affected by the dispute, and was therefore
perceived to be a
pre-judgment punishment, not just a peace-keeping
measure. In matters
of justice, perceptions matter as much as reality.
Sarah
Exactly. When I made my last arbcom case, against
Guanaco, Fred Bauder, on his own initiative, brought
in other "evidence" which had no bearing on the case
under consideration. It was clear that the arbcom, or
at least one member, was more interested in trying to
punish me than in making a decision based upon the
evidence presented to them.
RickK
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