I am sure Jimbo did not just shoot from the hip, and anybody trying to
sort out what is happening would still need "to go through the edits".
But what isn't needed is the whole quasi-legalistic infrastructure
that the arbcom has evolved
with "cases", "petitioners", "respondents",
"recusals", "votes to
accept or deny cases", "injunctions", "evidence", etc, etc,
It
is silly.
I have no idea of the AC history, but somewhere back when the arbcom
was getting rolling it took a wrong turn and now we have this
tremendously heavy process. The basic need is simply to be able to
get an experienced and level-headed Wikipedian who is respected and
trusted by the community involved in various situations who can (1)
warn people that they are out of line and try to nudge them towards
correcting their behaviour; and/or (2) impose a sanction if the
misbehaviour continues, with the easily-obtained backing of a
committee that represents the community consensus,
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:14:08 -0700, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote:
Jimbo did spend a lot of time going through the edits
so he could figure out
what is going on. That is what takes the time. And discussing what is really
the right thing to do.
Fred
From: Brian M <brian1954(a)gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian M <brian1954(a)gmail.com>om>, English Wikipedia
<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:45:33 -0500
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] ArbCom - too attached to 'equal treatment'?
The Arbitrators should become "moderators". When a moderator becomes
aware of an issue, he should try to resolve it by communicating with
the party or parties concerned. If he cannot, he should simply go
to the other moderators and say (in effect): "The facts are such and
such. Here is what I have tried to resolve it; but it hasn't worked.
I propose that we impose such-and-such sanction. The other
moderators should then just vote over the course of a few days, and
the decision should be implemented. There is no need for the
deliberation to be formal, long, or even public. Decisions should
just be announced on the Administrator noticeboard, which is also
where people might go to get the Moderators attention for problems.
There would probably need to be some system so that several Moderators
didn't work the same problems and get in each other's way. The
process should be very fast with a minimum of nonsense. The AC
replaces Jimmy and I am sure that Jimmy didn't go through all of this
laughable legaiistic claptrap when he was making his decisions.
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