[WikiEN-l] ArbCom - too attached to 'equal treatment'?

Mon Mar 7 15:28:59 UTC 2005

I think it clear that we should notice in anyone who has become involved.
For example, although we have a warning on each arbitration page (the main
page, not the evidence page) that editing the page enters you into the case,
folks may not read or understand that. So unless the person made the
original complaint or joined in it, if they latter add to the complaint, it
may not be clear to them that they have become a "plaintiff" and subject to
a "counterclaim".

Fred

> From: zero 0000 <nought_0000 at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 06:45:07 -0800 (PST)
> To: wikien-l at Wikipedia.org
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] ArbCom - too attached to 'equal treatment'?
> 
> Fred wrote:
>> A full investigation will improve the quality of our decisions. A
>> partial or
>> poor investigation restricted by artificial rules will reduce their
>> quality.
>> It's pretty much summed up by "The more you know..."
> 
> I think you are missing the point.  I don't see anyone wanting to
> limit the AC's ability to look wherever they like.  The issue is of
> who they have the right to impose penalties on.
> 
> Again:  if someone is accused by a RfA listing, they have the
> opportunity to write in their own defence and to have their
> fellows write in their defence.  Then the AC imposes a penalty
> on a different person who had no such opportunity since they
> didn't know it was necessary.  It is fundamentally unfair.
> 
> The accuser is treated worse than the accused.
> 
> The solution: except perhaps in emergencies, the AC should
> only be able to impose penalties on someone who has had an
> opportunity to mount a defence.  There should be a rule on
> how much opportunity must be given.
> 
> Zero.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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