[WikiEN-l] Re: Deletion of my images

Mon Mar 7 06:47:47 UTC 2005

There was no administrative error.
This was done on purpose as the image was missing a gfdl tag.
When I uploaded these images, tags were not mandatory yet. And my insect 
images had tags *but not* this one.

I complained to Quadell directly and asked him to restore the image.
But iMeowbot nicely restored it from a mirror.

The point is, this is *not the first time it happens*.

When I uploaded this picture, I specifically agreed on a little text 
saying something like "By uploading a file to which you hold the 
copyright, you agree to licence it under the terms of the
GNU Free Documentation License.".

So, I agree, but it does not matter I agree at all.

I was also asked some time ago to indicate under which licence I give my 
images. But the license I mention does not matter.

So, why do we have to agree on this little text when we upload and why 
are we asked under which license we give our images since it does not 
matter ?

And why do I give images to Wikipedia for them to be deleted ?

Actually, I recently gave many of Algeria, but the more time goes by, 
the less I give.

The reasons are

* some english wikipedians delete images uploaded in good faith without 
warning
* images deleted are not easily recoverable
* wikimedia projects do not respect the license by not always displaying 
clearly that images uploaded on wikicommons are under gfdl nor by 
mentionning authorship on the local projects
* wikicommons does not provide a link to where the images are used, so 
do not allow editors to check whether the way images are used are 
following legal requirements or not
* uploading images unfortunately takes time, even more on wikicommons 
where issues of duplicate in names begin to appear
* wikicommons is in english only, hence limiting access to those non 
english speaking
* wikinews does not allow uploading images, hence preventing the easy 
use of images to non english speakers (since they can not easily manage 
wikicommons)

The more time goes by, the less motivating it is to provide images imho.
I admire those who continue doing so. It needs real faith.

Anthere

Arno M a écrit:
> I suspect there was an administrative error here, and anthere has
> complained to Quadell directly about this.
> 
> Hopefully this will gets sorted out to everyone's satisfaction.
> 
> Arno
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anthere <anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Deletion of my images
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 06:03:44 +0100
> 
> 
>>For the second time this month, one of my images was deleted on the 
>>english wikipedia.
>>
>>I was not warned at all.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Anthere/PictInsectes&diff=0&oldid=10140585
>>
>>I'll be frank, I AM PISSED OFF.
>>
>>It is written clearly on my talk page, and my user page that all my 
>>images are gfdl. All my insects pictures listed on my user subpage 
>>are labelled, but this one.
>>
>>Just as I already said on the pump less than 2 weeks ago, I think 
>>it is really pure disrespect to delete an image without asking the 
>>author, and then only AFTER deletion, to go on this user subpage to 
>>remove the link to the deleted image. If there is time to go on my 
>>user subpage to remove a link, then there is time to drop by my 
>>user talk page and talk to me. Of there is time to read the mention 
>>on my user and user talk page and to read my warning about the 
>>status of my images and to update the image status.
>>
>>I am sorry, but I really find this of the latest rudeness.
>>
>> From now quite far away, as I have no more time to edit the 
>>english wikipedia, I have the horrible feeling the english 
>>wikipedia has become a very very cold place, where there is no 
>>respect for editors except those well known possibly. If feels like 
>>if one is not among the major editors, he does not count, and his 
>>feelings are not important at all. It looks like a machine. An 
>>automate. Not a great human construction.
>>
>>We are all here because we believe in what we do, but what we do is 
>>only good because we do it together and because we trust each other.
>>
>>Well, at least, some people trust other people. And if it is not 
>>possible to trust someone who spent already 3 years on wikipedia, I 
>>wonder how newbies are treated.
>>
>>In case you feel like telling me "yeah, but this is just one case 
>>you know, not everybody does that", I will then ask why Quadell is 
>>trusted to delete images. I do not trust him to do so. Not because 
>>he does not do this according to rules, but because he does not do 
>>this while taking human feelings into account. And wiki only works 
>>thanks to human power.
>>
>>Anthere
>>
>>
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