[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia e-mail (fwd)

Sun Jun 5 02:38:18 UTC 2005

Hi "Noitall",
I'm sorry that my response to you is delayed; I access Wikipedia from
a dial-up account, & I only read your email about half an hour ago.

From examining the history logs at [[Islamic Terrorism]], you violated the
[[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule]]. In brief, when any contributor --
& that applies to me as much as to you to Mustafaa or Yuber -- to Wikipedia
makes more than three reversions to an article within 24 hours, that
contributor can be banned from editing Wikipedia for up to 24 hours.
The intent of this rule is to get people to talk & listen to each other
over contentious edits -- & to prevent articles from being locked from
anyone editing them.

I do think that Mustafaa should have asked another Administrator who
had not been involved in this article to have done the ban so in
tandem with this & the fact that it took so long for me to look into the
matter, I'm ending your ban. I hope you take the time to first look at
the article above about the 3-revert rule, & to talk to Mustafaa & Yuber
about this article on the Talk page before making further changes to
that article. I also suggest that you look at the articles listed at
[[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]], in the event you feel you are not getting
a fair hearing about your edits.

I am also forwarding your email to Wikipedia-EN, where you can ask for
help & receive it much quicker.

Geoff

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:48:11 GMT
From: Noitall <scottc0034 at yahoo.com>
To: Llywrch <llywrch at agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Wikipedia e-mail

I am requesting both information and assistance.

I made an edit to [[Islamic Terrorism]] on Wiki.  I believe my edit was a balanced description of the term and significantly improved it.  I did not insert any POV.

However, this is apparently a highly monitored page with two Muslim editors (or more).  They teamed up to do a reactionary vandalism, reverting the page.  I believe they broke several of Wiki policies:
1.	Most important is that they have an obvious POV.
2.	Second, they rv instead of simply making one simple correction, the only correction that they disagreed with.
3.	Unlike what they stated, there has been no previous discussion of this issue.  The only previous discussion concerned their own sensitivity to the term.  The term “Islamic Terrorism” is the term used by the West and it is the term being described.  I provided a source (and there would be tens of thousands of sources, because this is the proper term in the West.  I accurately described the dispute that some Muslims have over a term used in the West.

But the biggest problem is they somehow shut me out of the system.  I believe that I have made significant contributions to Wiki and I very greatly object to 2 people teaming up to shut me out of the system so that they can insert their POV.

These people are doing a real disservice to Wiki, and I can think of no worse vandalism than they have done:

Mustafaa and Yuber

So, I would appreciate any information and assistance you can provide to Noitall.  Thank you.

Noitall