[WikiEN-l] The ongoing trolling

Sat Jul 9 13:08:21 UTC 2005

No fair, my experience with RK running wild here partly motivated me  
to create Wikinfo, although you are correct that a point of view  
advocating totalitarianism is not welcome. Everything has its natural  
limits.

In relationship to Wikipedia, aggressive POV editing is a major  
problem and those who engage in it will eventually be dragged before  
arbitration. We are working on solutions. One solution I am  
suggesting is MAD. Mutual Assured Destruction. For example, if both I  
and 172 are sysops, if we see that the other is editing [[Stalin]] in  
an aggressive point of view way, me repeatedly adding detailed  
information about the millions he killed for no good reason and 172  
whitewashing his hero, we would both potentially be subject to bans  
from editing that article for a period of time.

This is just a trial balloon, but is being proposed as a remedy in  
the Yuber case. Yuber does a lot of good editing in the Islamic and  
Arab area, but seems to not do well on controversial articles like  
[[Jizya]]. The proposed remedy is that for one year he would be on  
probation with respect to editing in the Islamist and Israeli- 
Palestinian conflict area and could be banned for a year from any  
article that he continues to edit in an aggressive POV manner by any  
administrator (could be by any other editor). At the end of the year  
the ban would be raised; meanwhile, he could continue to use the talk  
page and edit other articles.

As to Trey Stone, it is not that he is a fanatic that is getting him  
in trouble; it is thinking he can parrot the official line without  
bothering to reference it. So he says, "Oh no, the CIA had nothing to  
do with repression in Guatemala," but can't be bothered to even look  
up a statement by some State Department spokesman to that effect, if  
such could be found, which I doubt.

I do regret that Jimbo was not more sensitive to your feelings. I  
don't know why Adam Carr can do no wrong in his eyes. I don't find  
him that good an editor to start with.

Fred

On Jul 8, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Ruy Lopez wrote:

> you are at an RK or Trey Stone level of fanaticism, perhaps you  
> should check out another right wing nutcases wiki encyclopedia -  
> wikinfo.org.