[WikiEN-l] [[Talk:Autofellatio]] - Poll

Sun Feb 13 08:38:54 UTC 2005

Erik Moeller wrote:
> >We went through this with 'clitoris'.  We used to have a photo there
> >which was terrible and in poor taste.
> >
> I beg to differ. So far, I still haven't seen any reasonable argument on 
> what was wrong with the original picture. And, as I recall, it could be 
> tracked down to a website about the clitoris, not to a porn site. You 
> will have to accept that many people are not happy to follow someone 
> else's opinion on what is "terrible and in poor taste"."

And everyone will have to accept that in a wiki, if your writing style
is bad, or your taste in photos is bad, other people will delete it.
People who are not happy to follow other people's opinions to a
significant degree probably have a lot of stress when wiki editing in
general, no?

> Aesthetics is not something which is easy to argue about, obviously. In 
> the clitoris discussion, I got the impression that some people 
> deliberately were looking for "ugly" pictures in order to make sure that 
> any sexual arousal by the image is prevented. Someone even suggested a 
> truly horrible and inaccurate illustration from 1866, when women weren't 
> even believed to be capable of orgasm. Is it objective to say that a 
> vagina or penis which is unattractive is more tasteful and encyclopedic 
> than one which is attractive?

Well, it is objective to say that if the purpose of a photo is
educational, it needs to be (unlike the 1866 illustration) accurate
and informative.  And it is also objective to say that if the purpose
of a photo is educational, then it should focus on the informational
aspect rather than on sexually arousing (or shocking, or whatever) the
viewer.

> Let's be honest here: Someone who really wanted to know about
> autofellatio -- out of the desire to know about the subject, not out
> of the desire to discuss its merits as we do -- probably would like
> to see that photo, even if it's not the best possible one.

This person will not be hindered by us having the photo as a link.

To be even more informative, we could add a link to the google image
search (or similar) with a notice explaining that if you click it, you
are likely to get what you're asking for: autofellatio images.

--Jimbo