[WikiEN-l] Re: Cheese Dreams/proposal for a *new* policy

csherlock at ljh.com.au csherlock at ljh.com.au
Mon Feb 7 23:34:49 UTC 2005


I just think I'll note: I'm not really that worn down. So far I've 
blocked at least 6-7 CheeseDreams accounts. However, this should have 
been seen to be a problem when the following edit happened: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Historicity_of_Jesus&diff=7165989&oldid=7146273

Note the comment in the history. "Remove inusefor tag. Haven't finished, 
but really tired now. Will sort out the mess tommorrow." Then, check the 
state of the article!

Yet when I reverted back due to an editor going into an EXTREMELY 
controversial article (even before CD edited this it was controversial!) 
and just taking away all the material.

I think that this diff really says it all about the whole situation: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Historicity_of_Jesus&diff=7203163&oldid=6967565
(before CheeseDreams and after CheeseDreams).

TBSDY

John Lee wrote:
> I just thought I'd point out something from [[User:UninvitedCompany]]'s 
> user page - Wikipedia is a hundred times smaller than MSN. When we're 
> that big (which could definitely not be too far in the future), we'll 
> have a hundred CheeseDreams-like editors. True, we'll have a hundred 
> times more editors than we do now to clean up the mess, but the question 
> is, will we be able to put up against a hundred editors using tactics 
> like CheeseDreams? I am not necessarily advocating Nicholas' proposal, 
> but we should bear in mind that a minute saved is a minute earned. A 
> minute spent reverting CheeseDreams could be a minute spent adding 
> references to an article or a minute spent wikifying a decent new 
> article. CheeseDreams' tactics of attrition are wearing us down, and 
> it's doubtful whether a hundred times more editors would be capable of 
> dealing with a hundred CheeseDreams.
> 
> John Lee
> ([[User:Johnleemk]])




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