[WikiEN-l] Neo-nazis to attack wikipedia

Fred Bauder fredbaud at ctelco.net
Mon Feb 7 02:17:37 UTC 2005


We have a NPOV policy, not a majority rules policy.

Fred

> From: Jake Waskett <jake at waskett.org>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:58:24 +0000
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at wikipedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Neo-nazis to attack wikipedia
> 
> Ok, Jimbo, you're right. Let me amend my earlier statement: on the whole, the
> system is working, but in a few articles, it is not. Now, the question is
> this: what can be done about the problem?
> 
> One solution that I favour is to have permanent protection on targetted pages,
> and have a nominated admin apply changes that are agreed upon by vote on the
> article's talk page.
> 
> What do others think?
> 
> Jake.
> 
> On Monday 07 February 2005 01:48, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
>> Jake Waskett wrote:
>>> The simple truth is this: if Wiki is to
>>> become a credible, serious encyclopaedia, we *must* maintain NPOV. These
>>> groups *oppose* NPOV.
>> 
>> Yes!
>> 
>>> What can be done about it? The present system is simply *not*
>>> *working*. It'll handle the occasional abuse here and there, but the
>>> day-by-day, determined, and methodical twisting of articles to suit
>>> some activist agenda seems impossible to stop.
>> 
>> I am aware of only 3 instances where this (organized groups trying to
>> undermine NPOV editing) is a problem: LaRouche-related articles,
>> circumcision, and this new thing with the stormfront postings and VfD
>> co-ordination.
>> 
>> I think this is a serious problem, and one which we have long feared.
>> But we need not overreact.  The system *is* working in the main, and
>> where there are new problems (such as those aptly described by Slim
>> Virgin in discussion the pseudo-NPOV of the LaRouche edit warriors),
>> we can be confident in our ability to devise new solutions.
>> 
>> --Jimbo
>> 
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