[WikiEN-l] Titanic, illustrated

Fri Apr 15 16:54:14 UTC 2005

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:27:21AM -0700, Rick wrote:
> 
> --- Chad Perrin <perrin at apotheon.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:07:48AM -0700, Rick
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- Chad Perrin <perrin at apotheon.com> wrote:
> > > >The matter seems to be settled, somewhat,
> > > > by now with a
> > > > close-up of Winslet that doesn't challenge
> > > > sensibilities, though.
> > > 
> > > It's only settled because the image was
> > bowdlerized
> > > while the ifd discussion was still going on.
> > > 
> > 
> > Do you think the new image doesn't serve the
> > purposes of the article as
> > well as the old image?  If so, I encourage you to
> > support that opinion
> > and, if I find myself in agreement, I'd throw my
> > support behind your
> > opinion insofar as I'm willing to even be involved
> > in the discussion.  I
> > haven't heard/seen any indication that anyone thinks
> > this new image is
> > worse than the previous, and the consensus seems
> > (from my extremely
> > limited investigation) to be that it's actually a
> > better image, with the
> > possible exception of this one comment from you. 
> > Please correct me if
> > I'm wrong.
> 
> Honestly, no, the censored image does not serve a more
> useful function.  The scene of DiCaprio's character
> sketching a semi-nude Winslet character is integral to
> the plot of the story.  A cropped photo of Winslet's
> face may be fine as an illustration of the [[Kate
> Winslet]] article, but not for the Titanic article.

Very well.  I retract my characterization of the issue as "settled", and
I actually find that I'm sympathetic to your point.  The next question
that arises, then, is whether the fact that the sketching scene was
integral to the plot makes an image depicting that scene of integral
importance to the article.  Does the fact of that scene's importance to
the plot imply that it is somehow more suited to illustrating the
article than a recognizable representation of one of the primary actors
in the movie?

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Chad Perrin
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