[WikiEN-l] Re: Learn PHP

Mon Nov 29 17:29:20 UTC 2004

Cool idea. I'd be in.
Mark
--- Robin Shannon <robin.shannon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Count me in for learning PHP in a group. I'd love to
> contribute but
> dont have the skills... yet. Anyone else?
> 
> [[User:The bellman]]
> rjs
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:13:36 -0500 (EST), Shaun
> MacPherson
> <shaun_macpherson2001 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >  --- Tim Starling
> <t.starling at physics.unimelb.edu.au>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Matt R wrote:
> > > >  --- Tim Starling wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Unfortunately it seems most programmers on
> > > Wikipedia would rather think
> > > >>of excuses, complain about the lack of
> progress
> > > and file bug reports.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There's an unfortunate tendency on Wikipedia
> to
> > > suppose that if you identify a
> > > > problem that you can fix, then you have an
> > > obligation to fix it. Even if you
> > > > have the capability, there is no moral
> imperative
> > > for volunteers to do anything
> > > > at all on Wikipedia, and documenting a problem
> is
> > > already a positive
> > > > contribution, albeit a comparatively minor
> one. Of
> > > course, to grumble or whine
> > > > about a problem that you've identified is
> > > churlish, as you have no right to
> > > > expect that others fix things on your behalf.
> > > >
> > > > But to get to the point: I'm very grateful to
> the
> > > developers. I would quite
> > > > like to hack on Mediawiki myself some day, but
> > > right now I prefer to spend my
> > > > time contributing to the content of articles
> --
> > > this is not an *excuse*; this
> > > > is a choice, and I (only mildly!) resent any
> such
> > > implication.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry if I caused offence, I just wanted to
> > > impress on everyone that
> > > Wikipedia has barely any developers. If you're
> ever
> > > wondering why some
> > > feature hasn't been written yet, it's because
> > > there's been no-one around
> > > to write it. Most of the active developers seem
> to
> > > be more interested
> > > writing features for a general audience than for
> > > Wikimedia projects.
> > > There's more editors on the Old English
> Wikipedia
> > > than there are
> > > developers overall. Maybe Matt doesn't want to
> help,
> > > and that's fine. I
> > > get the feeling Gerrit doesn't either. But is
> there
> > > anyone? Every second
> > > Wikipedian seems to know a programming language.
> We
> > > just need, say, two
> > > or three developers willing to put in a few
> hours
> > > per week.
> > >
> > > -- Tim Starling
> > 
> > I currently have some time on my hands and I'd
> love to
> > be able to learn how to contribute.  What do you
> need
> > exactly, only people who know PHP?
> > 
> > I little about PHP but I would be willing to learn
> > from scratch :).  Hopefully there are other people
> who
> > want to learn, we can form a little group and go
> > though a few tutorials.  This way people who know
> PHP
> > could help multiple people at once learn saving
> time.
> > How long would you guess it take before a person
> would
> > learn enough PHP to be useful on MediaWiki?
> > 
> > ShaunMacPherson
> > 
> >
>
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