OK, this happened to me today in [[Exploding whale]]. Mikkalai remove a
whole chunk of text, which I reverted. He then reverted me. I modified
it to try to compromise, and commented on talk, and I messaged him
explaining what happened. He reverted again. I tried to modify again to
compromise, again I placed a note on talk, and in the edit summary I
asked him politely to go to talk before reverting. I also placed a
message on his page. He reverted again. I tried to clarify, left
*another* message on the talk page (responded to his comment), and left
a message on his talk page again. He reverted again.
I then listed the article on [[WP:RFC]] and left a note on his talk page
telling him I had done this. I didn't revert any more, I just explained
that I wanted outside comment. Sure enough, Markalexander100 tried to
compromise also. He reverted again, then he changed his mind and
attempted to compromise. This was all worked out well, though I do
regret that I was told by Mikkalai to "Go hunt zionist revisionist
deniers" - whatever that means (I'm sure it can't be good!)
My faith in the 3RR process is restored AND satisfied.
Ta bu shi da yu
Anthony DiPierro wrote:
I think it's more likely to make POV warriors use
sockpuppets and
thereby force other editors to either let them get away with it or
risk being blocked. Nobody likes to work, but POV warriors are
generally more willing to work.
Further, the way I interpret the 3RR, if there were 2 different POV
warriors, each reverting to different POV versions, an NPOV warrior
would lose. Consider the edits:
original version: Jerusalem is city which is claimed by both Israel
and the Palestinean Authority.
Warrior 1: Jerusalem is a city in Israel.
you: Jerusalem is city which is claimed by both Israel and the
Palestinean Authority.
Warrior 2: Jerusalem is a city in Palestine.
you: Jerusalem is city which is claimed by both Israel and the
Palestinean Authority.
Warrior 1: Jerusalem is a city in Israel.
you: Jerusalem is city which is claimed by both Israel and the
Palestinean Authority.
Warrior 2: Jerusalem is a city in Palestine.
you: Jerusalem is city which is claimed by both Israel and the
Palestinean Authority.
Warrior 1: Jerusalem is a city in Israel.
In this scenario, the person restoring the NPOV version has broken the
3RR, but the POV revert warriors have not. Sure, you can try to get
people on your side, but it takes more than twice as many people on
the NPOV side as it does on the POV sides. Add in a few vandals who
put in "Jerusalem sucksorz!!!!" and give a few of them multiple IP
addresses...
I think the 3RR is a great guideline. In fact, Jimbo has convinced me
to limit myself to one revert per day in almost all cases. But to be
a strict rule, I think it has to be perfect, not just good.
Anthony
>The 3RR doesn't have to be perfect, IMO, it just has to be better than what
>we've got now. At least this will make POV warriors hav eto work more to
>fight their revert wars, which should help reduce their number. Nobody
>likes to work :).