Robert wrote:
Nat,
I do disagree with RK calling anyone he dislikes a
Nazi,
but that's a separate issue.
I have tried to stay silent for a week, but the threats and
personal attacks just keep on coming.
Personal attacks are not acceptable behaviour, and should be condemned
in their own right. On the other hand extrapolating those attacks on
one individual into evidence of generalized anti-semitism is not a
logical consequence. To the extent that apparently anti-semitic comments
are made, I would suggest that they do not really reflect that attitude.
Some people simply use them because they know that one particular
individual will have excessive reactions. This sort of thing happens
all the time on playgrounds. Although neither practice is socially
acceptable, a distinction still needs to be made between generalized
jew-baiting and baiting one specific Jew.
However, when this issue was brought to the attention
of
the Wiki-En list, I was slandered, called a liar, and worst
of all, many Wiki-En supporters wrote in support of
Stevertigo and Martin Harper. Incredibly, no one was
publicly willing to speak out against anti-Semitic
propaganda and Holocaust denial.
Some of us might think that jumping into these topics would be feeding
trolls. Directly confronting Holocaust denial gives it a credibility
that it could never achieve by itself.
Look, when people write in support of Nazi propaganda
(and
there is no debate about the edits in question), then in
those select cases we are forced to admit that they are, by
definition, anti-Semitic.
This is a non-sequitur. Nazi propaganda dealt with many more issues
than just anti-semitic ones. As with any political party, a general
support of that party does not imply supporting every policy on that
party's platform. With a limited number of parties one is often
confronted at an election with trying to choose the least evil.
The Wiki-En list is currently ruled by an elite clique
of
political left-wingers who won't allow any un-PC writings
about Arabs, gays, blacks, Asians, women or socialists. Yet
this same clique is so anti-Zionist that they will support
outright anti-Semitism and Christian identity or Nazi
propaganda, just as a way to make the "enemy" look bad.
That is outright nonsense. In U.S. politics I've seen Jews, to their
credit, more often associated with the Democratic Party and left-wing
causes. The real hardcore fundamentalist anti-semites have a greater
affinity with the other side of the spectrum. And please don't confuse
anti-Zionism with anti-semitism.
When Wiki-En members are supportive of such actions,
that
(by definition) is anti-Semitism.
No, it is anti-RK-ism.
Ec