[WikiEN-l] Re: pictures of genetalia

Sat Jan 10 23:33:54 UTC 2004

Erik Moeller a écrit:
> Alex-
> 
>>Many people agree with you Anthere, even
>>in the United States. This is an issue that has
>>become galvanized because of the supposed
>>"antisemite" connotations of circumcision (though
>>moslems also practice this form of male genital
>>mutilation as a religious right of the parents).
> 
> 
> This is not the place for a circumcision flamewar. Many people feel that  
> in spite of lacking a foreskin, they are fully sexually functional, and  
> may even believe in the supposed medical benefits of the procedure. As a  
> matter of fact, there are some recent studies which promote the belief  
> that circumcision even prevents HIV. I say "promote the belief" because  
> these studies are fundamentally methodologically flawed, but it is easy to  
> see that people might believe them, given that they have been published in  
> peer reviewed (US) journals and have received widespread (international)  
> media attention.
> 
> There are people who believe just as forcefully that circumcision is  
> right, decent and proper as I believe that it is wrong, harmful and  
> pointless, and there are internally consistent arguments that can be made  
> for both sides. Few subjects are as eligible to turn into long lasting  
> flamewars as this one. Please do not encourage rants on this subject --  
> they do not really contribute to a debate about inclusion standards.
> 
> Wikipedia is not Usenet. It's not a place for advocacy of any kind. If  
> anything, we should talk about how to make the article [[circumcision]]  
> better, not about what's morally wrong with the procedure. Otherwise we  
> might as well talk about the international arms trade, social equality,  
> global warming and electronic voting machines, all very serious issues.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Erik

I am going to improve the article right now, by moving to it what 
currently DOES NOT belong to the penis article. Which is *absolutely* 
the only position I have been holding.
I was talking of NPOV and american bias, not of any morality issues.