On 01/10/04 at 06:32 AM, Robert <rkscience100(a)yahoo.com> said:
Danny and Zero simply didn't want this information
made
available. They have an anti-Zionist agenda (which is their right), and
they do not want quotes from Palestinian
leaders made available at all, if it hurts their political
views (which is not their right.) To claim that they don't
have anti-Zionist agendas is untenable; they are very clear on these
issues.
Sorry Robert, I won't let you get away the defaming these two contributors
behind their backs; Danny appears to have left us and Zero doesn't
subscribe to this list. Smearing them as "anti-Zionists" is a ludicrous
charge; it is as meaningless a term as calling them "anti-American" and
simply demonstrates nothing more than the poverty of your argument. You
think perhaps Danny and Zero wish for the destruction of Israel??? I
challenge you to supply even the fainest shred of evidence that these two
think this way. They may be critical of the Israeli government, just like
some Americans are critical of the US government, but the problem is that
in your ultra-fanatical Zionist worldview that would do the Taliban proud
there is no space for even the most minimal criticism of Israel. Unless
you come up with more substantial criticisms of Danny and Zero I trust the
readers of this list will dismiss your complaints as just more of your
tiresome whining.
Secondly, when someone repeatedy says that they want
to
destory Israel, and they repeatedly admit that they lied to the
Israelies, and that they have no intention of ever having a real peace
with them, we are obligated to report these facts. We may not censor
these facts and claim that "Those silly Arabs don't really mean what
they sa". When we do this, we push am obviously anti-Israeli agenda,
and we also infantilize Arabs. We may agree or disagree with
them, but let's stop treating them like children incapable
of expressing simple thoughts.
This is just more of your shameless, ultra-Zionist fantasy as Israel the
victim. Has the Israeli government never lied to its people or to Israel's
neighbors???
There has developed two standards of intellectual
integrity among the
Wiki-En contributors. One standard is for Arabs, and the other standard
is for the rest of the world. This
double-standard must end if Wikipedia wants to be taken
seriously outside left-wing circles.
An other wholly unsubstantiated claim without merit that is an insult to
the many Wikipedians who have contributed on articles on the Middle East.
V.