[WikiEN-l] Re: Vigilantism or due process (was: Plautus)

Thu Feb 26 18:10:20 UTC 2004

I vote against

It is not one admin who should decide that
The community should
In case of urgency, there should be a poll, and if say 80% agree, the 
guy is temp banned by a sysop

A sysop is not there to take decision for the rest of the community, he 
is there at the service of the community. If the community widely wishes 
a temp ban, a sysop will appropriately act as the community wishes.

If a sysop is allowed to unilateraly, temporarily ban of user, free of 
any later accusation, I ask that

* from now on, no person is made sysop with less than 100% agreement 
from the community
* that any sysop time is temporary, let's say 6 months. After 6 months, 
the sysop should be reconfirmed. If any user oppose a vote to his 
nomination, he should not be a sysop any more.

The sysop voice should not hold more weight than another user voice. The 
sysop position does not allow to take decisions unilateraly. The sysop 
is not a cop, allowed to pull out a gun whenever he feels like it, and 
get out of it free.

Rick a écrit:
> I vote for admins to have the authority to temp-ban any user.
>  
> RickK
> 
> "Poor, Edmund W" <Edmund.W.Poor at abc.com> wrote:
> 
>     Erik (Eloquence) has called for a 'return to vigilantism'. I oppose
>     this. Let's vote.
> 
>     How many people want admins to have the Authority to temp-ban any user
>     who (in their opinion) has violated a community rule? (Confession: This
>     is precisely what I did myself with Wik a couple of weeks ago, so there
>     is, er, "blood on my hands").
> 
>     How many people want to decisions on banning (except for clear-cut
>     "simple vandalism" or "emergencies") to be handled Only By The
>     Arbitration Committee?
> 
>     1. Please clarify whether you agree that these are the two alternatives.
>     2. Please indicate which alternative you want.
> 
>     If enough of us on the mailing list have strong feelings about this, I
>     will create a policy polling page on the English Wikipedia, and we
>     cansee if a consensus develops that merits a change in policy.
> 
>     Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed
> 
>     P.S. I'm trying to be impartial about this, even though I have an
>     opinion.
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