[WikiEN-l] Are things getting worse?

Fred Bauder fredbaud at ctelco.net
Sat Feb 14 15:29:50 UTC 2004


I think one thing I could do is simply to quit arguing about folks who are
are here to push a point of view and just accept folks will ordinarilly do
that and that it is ok provided other points of view are also expressed.

Fred

> From: Jimmy Wales <jwales at bomis.com>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:17:25 -0800
> To: wikien-l at wikimedia.org
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Are things getting worse?
> 
> Is the amount of internal squabbling getting worse or better?  My
> rough sense is that it's getting worse, but maybe I'm just tired of it
> and therefore perceiving it to be more of a problem lately.
> 
> What can we all do to build a sense of love and harmony?  What can
> each of us do to alter our own behavior to be supportive of others,
> less argumentative, more productive?
> 
> Is the mediation/arbitration system working to increase internal
> political problems, or do decrease those problems?  Or, is it way too
> early to tell?
> 
> My concern is that it seems to me that we're spending way too much
> time on internal court intruigues, to our detriment.  Every day, it
> seems, there's some new crisis of management, some new emergency ban,
> some new sysop crossing the line.
> 
> Part of this was caused, I think, by a perceived power vacuum after
> the start of the year.  I was out of the business of policing, but the
> arbitration committee was still not ready.  Sysops felt a real need to
> do something to stop some real problem users.  It was a vicious cycle.
> 
> But, what about now?  How can we bring about peace?
> 
> --Jimbo
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