[WikiEN-l] Mr. Royce and SR

Roy Royce roy_q_royce at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 30 19:04:22 UTC 2003


Yes, I know that Mr. Wales ruled that I should not reply (to the list)
in this case, but he should at least allow a brief reply since my proof
had already been posted here.

Here is a quick top-post definition of an "intrinsic property":
A physical property that is not observer-dependent (or does not
vary with an observer's point of view). For example, a clock's
intrinsic rhythm is given by its internal atomic vibrations.

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>From: Dante Alighieri <dalighieri at digitalgrapefruit.com>
>Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>Subject: [WikiEN-l] Mr. Royce and SR
>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:17:38 -0700
>
>At 12:01 PM 9/29/2003, you wrote:
>>At this point, although we have not answered our original question
>>about what was physically happening in these three cases, we have
>>answered the question about what was _not_ happening in these cases,
>>which means that we have answered the important question Does SR
>>pertain to physically real (or intrinsic) characteristics? And we
>>have found that the answer to this question is No. This tells us all
>>we need to know in order to prove our main point that SR does not
>>pertain to the equivalence of real mass with real energy (which is
>>of course stated explicitly by the equation E=mc^2).
>>
>>-----RR-----
>
>Mr. Royce, could you please define what you mean by "real" in the sense 
>that you've used it in your "proof"? You say "real clock rhythm", "real 
>mass", and "real energy", but don't fully define those terms. Perhaps the 
>root of the misunderstanding here is a difference in word usage? Maybe 
>people on the list are missing your fundamental point because they aren't 
>using the same words to mean the same things...
>
>
>-----
>Dante Alighieri
>dalighieri at digitalgrapefruit.com
>
>"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their 
>neutrality in times of great moral crisis."
>    -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
>
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