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Subject: [WikiEN-l] Israeli-Palestinian neutrality
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:56:20 -0700
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FILETIME=[0DDE5500:01C34B4F]
It strikes me as increasingly obvious that some concerted effort to be as
NPOV as possible on the Israeli-Palestinian issue is necessary, as it's
starting to be one of the more frequent edit wars, and distributed
throughout the wiki, even in places you might not expect.
Two issues in particular that have come up lately, one from each side:
1. [[User:BL]] is mass-adding the contents of
palestineremembered.com --
massive lists with hundreds of subpages comprising every village (defined
as 10 or more people) destroyed in the 1948 war, every "massacre" (defined
as 10 or more people) committed or purportedly committed during that war
(little effort is made to distinguish), and a whole host of other
information that's difficult if not impossible to verify.
Even if it weren't for the difficulty in verifying this information, it
strikes me as somewhat odd that we'd have 300 pages dedicated to Arabs
killed in 1948, and only a single page dedicated to the Armenian genocide,
or the Pontian Genocide, or the Hutu-Tutsi genocide, and so on. I don't
think it'd be a good idea to add 10,000 pages or so, one for each village
("village" defined as 10 people or more) destroyed in each of those
conflicts. And if we're going to have a separate page for every instance
of civilian deaths during a war, WW2 alone would be another 10,000 pages or
so.
2. [[User:RK]] is, as is probably obvious, somewhat of a pro-Israeli
activist, and is becoming difficult to clean up. The latest thing I've
noticed is him adding 2-paragraph-long attacks on Arab anti-Semitism to
articles such as [[George Washington]] and [[Benjamin Franklin]], in the
guise of "defending" their "tarnished" reputations against charges of
anti-Semitism stemming from little-known fabricated quotes.
Not to single out these two users in particular; they're the two that come
to mind at first. And these two issues in particular are also being dealt
with on talk pages. But it's becoming clear that it will be very difficult
to catch all of these, so perhaps some more concerted effort is needed.
I'm not sure exactly what to propose, but it seems as a minimum we need a
group of several people who are not particularly partial to either side --
but who are knowledgeable about the issues -- to essentially police
(hopefully in as unconfrontational a way as possible) this sort of stuff.
The problem is that those most knowledgeable and interested in spending a
great deal of time writing articles on these topics are often those who are
most partisan to one side or the other.
Suggestions?
-Mark
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