[WikiEN-l] Censorship article

Mon Apr 14 19:15:31 UTC 2003

Anthere,

I always take your comments seriously. I am going to take some time off from Wikipedia while I think about what you wrote.

Au revoir,

Edmond Le Pauvre

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthere [mailto:anthere6 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:09 PM
To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Censorship article

Ed.

1. Whatever you try to pretend now, what you did
appeared to be censorship. It is especially obvious as
you were the only one strongly against the content of
the article, when all the other ones merely said it
could be under another title

2. When I tried to talk to you about it, you just
didnot answer. Moving an article to a talk page, and
just "leaving" while saying "this is not good guys,
please do work it until it is" is not exactly a
collaborative way to resolve issues

3. You abused your sysop powers, while yourself
engaged in an edit war on this article, you threatened
Steve of being banned if he tried to revert the
artile. This is not exactly a good way to promote
confidence and collaborative work, and this is exactly
what I would call sysop abuse. 

4. You banned an anonymous ip just after one edit
*you* disagreed with. I think it is pushing the red
button a little bit quickly, without giving the person
the opportunity to talk about what he was doing. This
again is not exactly a collaborative attitude

5. I wonder what would happen to me if I were adopting
exactly the same attitude than you on this
article...want a parallele ? Say, I don't appreciate
one article on iraq war, so I entirely moved it to the
talk page, and say "Hey, work on this, this is not
acceptable as it is not representative of all views".
Then, each time someone try to revert the article, I
will threaten to ban him ?

How many minutes until I am banned for doing so do you
think ? 

6. And yes, last point, though you seem to imply the
opposite here, Steve has not been insisting on
preserving the article just as it was. You just never
let the opportunity to do anything on that piece.

Yes, that is ironic.

And yes, that is extremely sad also.

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