[teampractices] Setting norms for points field in Phabricator

Thu Feb 18 20:18:07 UTC 2016

+1 and to build on Bryan's comment:
It may help to have a cross team task with linked subtasks for individual
teams. A specific subtask can be estimated in the context of the team who
owns it.

I would also want to leave this point up to the teams who share the work. I
don't think anyone is going to be able to police all the cross team tasks
but we should have recommendations for team who have this problem.

Also I've added this to the wiki page about the upgrade here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Feb_2016_Upgrade

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Bryan Davis <bd808 at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:54 PM, James Forrester
> <jforrester at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > This is mostly an issue for tasks that sit in multiple teams' boxes. For
> VE
> > I've 'til-now set these to 0 if externally blocked (e.g.
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119780 ), but that only works if the
> > other team(s) involved don't want to set points themselves.
> >
> > When points were only available to the few teams using the Sprint
> extension
> > this was no-one, to a first approximation (off the top of my head, two
> tasks
> > have had clashes like this in the past year, and no-one cared enough to
> > enforce their way over others). Now all projects have it, it's much more
> > likely to be a thing.
>
> The pedantic scrum nerd that I try to keep locked up in the back of my
> skull says that a task that is passed around from team to team is not
> of a granularity that estimable for sprint work. It may be an epic or
> theme that has been given some estimation for the purpose of backlog
> grooming but those points are not comparable to sprint task points.
>
> Bryan
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