[teampractices] Here comes the scrum of scrums

Fri Oct 18 00:11:15 UTC 2013

Thanks everyone who came and participated in the first scrum of scrums!
Overall, I think it went really well - particularly considering this was
our first iteration of this experiment.

There are just a few points I'd like to mention before we dive into the
next one:
* Please be on time. We got started late with the first one, which
exacerbates the challenge of coordinating between all of the teams in 30
minutes. I have extended the room reservation to begin at 10:25am to allow
a few minutes for folks to show up, set up the hangout, etc. I will start
the next one at 10:30am PDT with or without you :)

* I think there was some feeling about folks discussing things that weren't
really pertinent/important for other teams to here. I think this is OK, and
it will just take some calibration for us to figure out what's the good
stuff to bring up and what's not. I think that Diederik's proposal (see
'Story wall for the Scrum of Scrums') of using some kind of visual
representation of the dependencies, etc can help keep conversation well
focussed - but we also want to provide some space for us to discover hidden
dependencies or other ways in which we can collaborate.

* I personally had the sense that overall the first meeting was useful, as
touchpoints/dependencies/places for collaboration were highlighted,
discovered, and briefly discussed. Of course I am biased because I am eager
for this to succeed, so I am curious to hear other perspectives.

* There was a mistake in preparing calendar invites, and Trevor (of the
VisualEditor team) was left off. I only noticed minutes prior to the
meeting and unfortunately VE was not represented. As you can likely tell
from the notes, there were a few touchpoints discussed between VE and other
teams. Sorry for the mixup!

* We have a retrospective scheduled for Nov 12 to evaluate how things have
been going with the SoS - but please don't hesitate to discuss/share
thoughts/etc before that so we can continue to make improvements as we move
forward.

Thanks again,
Arthur

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Arthur Richards <arichards at wikimedia.org>wrote:

> Whoops, that was an oversight - the language team is also already on the
> list :-)
> On Oct 9, 2013 9:40 PM, "Alolita Sharma" <asharma at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arthur,
>>
>> Can you add the Language team to the list of teams interested in
>> participating in the SoS. Amir is on vacation this week and may not have
>> responded.
>>
>> Best,
>> Alolita
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent; thanks for driving this, Arthur.
>>>
>>> For those who are skeptical about such things, please keep in mind
>>> it's just an experiment and the eval after a month will hopefully lead
>>> to a decision by the participating teams on whether it is / can be a
>>> useful investment of time or not. I don't think anyone disagrees that
>>> we need to continually improve inter-team communications and this is
>>> one of many possible ways of going about it. :) I'm really pleased so
>>> many teams decided to sign up and participate in this trial run.
>>>
>>> All best,
>>> Erik
>>> --
>>> Erik Möller
>>> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alolita Sharma
>> Director of Engineering
>> Language Engineering (i18n/L10n)
>> Wikimedia Foundation
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