[Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 48

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Yes, how are you all doing, well I got  problem here, I want to know what all this is about because I have heptic encephelogy, it's another word for people who have hepatitus c, it's short term memory damage and a lot of things I cant remember what they are about , so I appoligize for not remembering what this all about, please fill me in again what we are talking about here thank you for your time. Sincerely, johnny...
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: category in templates (Rob Church)
2. Re: category in templates (jdd)
3. Trackback spam (Jan Steinman)
4. Re: Trackback spam (Brion Vibber)
5. User Permissions and defaults (Chris Earle (CBL))
6. Re: User Permissions and defaults (Brion Vibber)
7. Re: User Permissions and defaults (Chris Earle (CBL))
8. MonoBook customization (WikiPlant)
9. Image Problems (Shaun Kimber)
10. Transclusion of category items (Hugh Prior)
11. Re: Transclusion of category items (Brion Vibber)
12. use of the 'Help:' namespace (Roger Chrisman)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:02:47 +0000
From: "Rob Church" 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] category in templates
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"

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Either run the refreshLinks.php script from the command-line, or touch
each page yourself. Category link tables aren't updated for templates
until the including page changes.


Rob Church

On 21/02/06, jdd wrote:
> Hello :-)
>
> I use a templete to complete my interwiki links
>
> http://fr.opensuse.org/Mod?le:IW
>
> It would be convenient to group in a category all the pages
> modified to have this template inserted, so I insert a
> [[Categorie:IW pr?te]] in the template it self.
>
> the category page seems not to list anything then the
> template page itself (even if a relevant page is loaded and
> the category listed at the end of the page..
>
> http://fr.opensuse.org/Comment_participer
>
> local problem or normal behavior?
>
> thanks
> jdd
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:15:48 +0100
From: jdd 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] category in templates
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <43FB8304.2030601 at dodin.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15

Rob Church wrote:
> Either run the refreshLinks.php script from the command-line, or touch
> each page yourself. Category link tables aren't updated for templates
> until the including page changes.

good.

Mediawiki is a wonderfull piece of code, I'm often surprised
to see such intricated code works :-). Of course the update
can't be done anytime.

but this is not very important. I can go on with my
template, it works or will in a near future, thats good :-)

jdd

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http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=G?rer_ses_photos


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:42:05 -0800
From: Jan Steinman 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Trackback spam
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Message-ID: <4934E69C-C35D-4DEC-98B4-04E7393A59C7 at Bytesmiths.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

Just when you think it's safe to go out again...

I've secured my fairly late-model (~1.5.6) MediaWiki against public 
account creation, and now I'm finding the thieves are polluting it 
with trackbacks. This new vandalism requires no account creation, no 
edit rights.

In this case, I simply went in and wiped the contents of the 
"mw_trackbacks" table. (I can just hear Brion saying, "DON'T DO THAT!")

Is there any strategy in place for combatting this new (to me, at 
least) form of vandalism?

:::: Giving society cheap, abundant energy at this point would be the 
equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun. -- Paul Ehrlich ::::
:::: Jan Steinman ::::




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:58:31 -0800
From: Brion Vibber 

Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Trackback spam
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <43FBA927.5040705 at pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Jan Steinman wrote:
> Just when you think it's safe to go out again...
> 
> I've secured my fairly late-model (~1.5.6) MediaWiki against public 
> account creation, and now I'm finding the thieves are polluting it 
> with trackbacks. This new vandalism requires no account creation, no 
> edit rights.
> 
> In this case, I simply went in and wiped the contents of the 
> "mw_trackbacks" table. (I can just hear Brion saying, "DON'T DO THAT!")
> 
> Is there any strategy in place for combatting this new (to me, at 
> least) form of vandalism?

Don't enable trackbacks. :)

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:43:54 -0500
From: "Chris Earle (CBL)" 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] User Permissions and defaults
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Hey all,

So the default $wgGroupPermissions (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:User_rights#Defaults ) have the standard
things for users like reading and editing etc...... and the sysop rights
like accountcreation etc....

But do you have to specifically state that ['user']['protect'], and some of
the other more 'sysop'-warranted operations be = false for users? I just
realized that run-of-the-mill users can protect pages, and do patrolling,
but I'm not sure I want to do that -- so I guess I have to specifically set
user patrol and protect to false eh?
Because maybe for users there's more than move/edit/read/upload for default?


Ideas appreciated,



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Chris Earle
System Solutions Specialist,


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:02:15 -0800
From: Brion Vibber 

Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] User Permissions and defaults
To: "Chris Earle (CBL)" , MediaWiki announcements
and site admin list 
Message-ID: <43FCB537.8010000 at pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Chris Earle (CBL) wrote:
> So the default $wgGroupPermissions (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:User_rights#Defaults ) have the standard
> things for users like reading and editing etc...... and the sysop rights
> like accountcreation etc....
> 
> But do you have to specifically state that ['user']['protect'], and some of
> the other more 'sysop'-warranted operations be = false for users?

Not unless you did something silly like set them to true for users.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:30:13 -0500
From: "Chris Earle (CBL)" 
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] User Permissions and defaults
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"

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Okay, so nothing is set except the defaults -- c00l

Thanks


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:09:57 +0100
From: WikiPlant 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MonoBook customization
To: MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Message-ID: <43FCD325.2030401 at wikiplant.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed

Hi :)
I changed the css-file in the monobook-folder and all went right, but I 
just don't know 'til now how to change the space between the top and the 
navigation bar and between the top and the content-div, because I want 
the navigation higher and the content lower... :(
flo


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:48:26 -0600
From: "Shaun Kimber" 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Image Problems
To: 
Message-ID: <7284484C5C8D05498666143E9196978B47D40D at MAIL.sundog.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've just installed mediawiki, and I'm having problems with embedded
images. I have uploaded the image, and use the syntax
[[Image:image.jpg]]. From my understanding, this should display the
image in the wiki post, but it doesn't, it merely creates a like to it.
It acts as though I used the syntax [[:Image:image.jpg]]. Thanks for
your help.



Shaun 



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:50:46 +0100
From: "Hugh Prior" 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Transclusion of category items
To: mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org
Message-ID: 


How do I transclude the actual category page links? Let me try and 
explain...

Example. If I have a category page "Category:XYZ" which contains the text 
"This is my category page text" and links to (say) 5 pages which have the 
category "XYZ" on them. On another page, "Mega Page", I would like to 
transclude the category links. If on my "Mega Page" I put {{Category:XYZ}} 
then on this "Mega Page" all I will get is "This is my category page text", 
whereas what I want is the 5 links from my category page.

I hope someone out there understands this! Thanks!!





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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:11:03 -0800
From: Brion Vibber 

Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Transclusion of category items
To: Hugh Prior , MediaWiki announcements and
site admin list 
Message-ID: <43FCEF87.3060902 at pobox.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hugh Prior wrote:
> How do I transclude the actual category page links? Let me try and 
> explain...

You can't.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:25:05 -0800
From: Roger Chrisman 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] use of the 'Help:' namespace
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

Message-ID: <200602222225.05574.roger at rogerchrisman.com>
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Hi,

I am creating site Help pages in my Mediawiki v1.5.6's 'Help:' 
namespace. 

I could put my Help pages under my 'Projectname:' namespace but I like 
them in the more intuitive 'Help' namespace. Is that a *bad* idea?

**I am worried** that future upgrades to Mediawiki may include their own 
'Help:' files there that would collide with the ones I am making there 
now (when I upgrade).

Anyone know if that is likely to ever really happen?


Thanks!

Roger :-)
TESOLW.org (on Mediawiki v1.5.6)


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