[Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?

Wed Nov 30 16:27:12 UTC 2005

...bear in mind to tweak the code for Special:Wantedpages first,
otherwise it'll miss out some which aren't linked to more than once.

Rob Church

On 30/11/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/11/05, Steven Dick <kg4ydw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Clearly, you didn't read what I said, and you didn't check
> > Special:Allmessages either.
> > Yes, I know about that page, yes I find it helpful, but it is not enough.
>
> OK, no need for accusations - I read what you said, and I know what
> Special:Allmessages is and does, but I misunderstood what you were
> asking for.
>
> I *thought* you were talking about pages which were literally *part
> of* the interface; these should all be in the MediaWiki: namespace, be
> listed in Special:Allmessages, and have defaults built into the PHP
> files and entered into the database on install. Any exceptions to this
> are, AFAIK, bugs - there may be some due to things which predate that
> system, for instance, but they can and should be fixed.
>
> I now realise that what you were actually talking about is pages which
> are *linked to* from various places in the default interface messages,
> and you are quite right that there is no way of automatically listing
> those.
>
> > It does NOT list  [[Protected_page_guidelines]] which is linked from
> > [[protectedpagewarning]].  This is one example only.
>
> You mean [[Project:Protected page guidelines]], linked from the
> default [[MediaWiki:protectedpagewarning]]; kinda pedantic, but
> important were you/someone to actually write up the kind of list
> you're suggesting.
>
> > Also, there are a large number of messages in that page, most of which are
> > OK and do not need much tweaking for me.  My complaint is that I'd like a
> > list of pages that DO need tweaking, mostly because they don't yet exist.
>
> Well, like I say, actual UI messages should all have defaults - even
> if there is no MediaWiki:... page for something, the software will
> fall back to the version in the PHP source, so there is no real need
> for an extra list of those. The point about pages linked to *from*
> those defaults is a separate one, and any list of those that "need
> tweaking" will be somewhat subjective - though that doesn't rule out
> it being useful.
>
> On 30/11/05, Arthur Guy <Arthur at assys.net> wrote:
> > I certainly agree that a list of pages with links but no content that
> > have yet to be created would be useful; this needs someone who is
> > familiar with the system to write them all down or someone to setup a
> > new site and just go through everything.
>
> This sounds like a rather good idea - and as you say, one which anyone
> with a fresh install could do. In fact, it would probably be as simple
> as copying the list from [[Special:Wantedpages]] on a new install and
> editting it around a little; if that doesn't work, searching the
> source of Special:Allmessages to spot redlinks ought to be pretty easy
> too. If anyone fancies doing this, and putting the result on
> meta.wikimedia.org (and/or www.mediawiki.org ?) I'm sure it will be
> appreciated by others.
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
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