[Labs-l] Webservice

Thu Jul 10 23:05:22 UTC 2014

Also, sometimes the webservice seems "half dead" (Schrödinger's
webservice?), need to restart Even had "restart" not working - needed to
stop
, then start again manually.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Hasteur Wikipedia <
hasteur.wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Um... That's a very very bad idea. A crontab entry like that will fire
> multiple times a minute. What's the largest downtime that the service can
> tolerate?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Petr Bena <benapetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > what about appending this to crontab:
> >
> > * * * * * webservice start
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Tim Landscheidt <
> tim at tim-landscheidt.de> wrote:
> >> Magnus Manske <magnusmanske at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been manually restarting about a dozen webservices for my tools
> in the
> >>> last 24h.
> >>
> >>> And before you say it, some of those were Hedonil's hand-rolled
> webservice.
> >>
> >>> Could we PLEASE either have a Labs-official, auto- and self-restarting
> >>> webservice, or something a little more stable than lighttpd (or a more
> >>> stable way to run it)?
> >>
> >> I looked at all the tools you are a developer of and I as-
> >> sume you speak about wikidata-todo.  This has some logs that
> >> appear to have indications of OOM shutdowns.
> >>
> >> You use a custom lighttpd configuration, and I'm not sure if
> >> the decision to have two PHP FCGIs doubles the memory re-
> >> quirements, at the moment using 6 GBytes out of 7 GBytes re-
> >> quested.
> >>
> >> What is clear however is that your PHP script:
> >>
> >> | 2014-07-10 14:11:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.2701) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal
> error:  Allowed memory size of 2621440000 bytes exhausted (tried to
> allocate 71 bytes) in /data/project/wikidata-todo/public_html/autolist2.php
> on line 201
> >>
> >> uses almost 2.5 GByte of memory -- if I don't misread the
> >> documentation -- per /request/.
> >>
> >> Memory is cheap and we could just increase the requested
> >> limit, but I assume there are some PHP developers around who
> >> might want to have a poke at optimizing
> >> <
> https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/wikidata-todo/src/master/public_html/autolist2.php
> >.
> >>
> >> Regarding self-restarting web services, with continuous jobs
> >> we have a "while ! $JOB; do sleep 5; done" loop that ensures
> >> that the job is restarted if it aborts.  This however does
> >> not work on OOMs that are the predominant cause of webser-
> >> vice shutdowns, as the grid engine will kill the loop as
> >> well :-).  So we will probably have to start the webservice
> >> and then start a watchdog job with the webservice's job num-
> >> ber as its parameter that periodically checks that the web-
> >> service is still running and, in case, restarts the webser-
> >> vice.  But to do that, jobs on execution nodes need to be
> >> able to submit jobs, and this is still pending
> >> (cf. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54786).
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
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