[Labs-l] Labs reliability

Sun Aug 31 21:25:13 UTC 2014

icinga.wikimedia.org has private production data in, so is restricted to
the following LDAP groups: ops, wmf, nda

On 31 August 2014 22:15, Pine W <wiki.pine at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I tried to access Labs info on icinga to see what
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> that might show about Labs reliability information. I'm pretty sure that I
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> was able to access icinga in the past. When I go to icinga.wikimedia.org I
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> am prompted for a username and password, and mine don't work. I can log
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> into wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any suggestions?
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> Also, is there any place besides icinga that shows reliability data?
> Perhaps
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> I am thinking of a different tool.
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> Pine
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> On Aug 30, 2014 10:25 PM, "Jeremy Baron" <jeremy at tuxmachine.com> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I have heard that Labs is an experimental envirionment, and service
>> outages
>> > and storage erasures are to be expected from time to time. What is the
>> > recommended alternative to Labs for services that need good reliability
>> like
>> > bots?
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>> Tell us more about the use case you have in mind?
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>> is 48 hours of downtime per year too much? 24 hours?
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>> There is some redundancy built in to both labs and tool labs in
>> particular. I would say typical services (including bots) should be
>> configured either so that there's multiple copies running (on
>> different hosts) so that it's not broken by the failure of a single
>> host *or* configured so that it's restarted automatically if it dies
>> or is not currently running.
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>> If you've encountered a problem the first step is to reconfigure your
>> service to do one of those things.
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>> Documentation here is somewhat lacking. e.g.
>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/ doesn't mention "bigbrother" at all.
>>
>> -Jeremy
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