[Foundation-l] RfC: A Free Content and Expression Definition

Tue May 2 14:18:21 UTC 2006

Hoi,
Remembering previous conversations, you conveniently forget what to do
about logos of companies and similar info. For the English language
Wikipedia it is "not a problem" because the problem is hidden under
their "fair use". It is however really powerful information. People
KNOW organisations by their logos and it does make sense to have a way
to include these using a license that does allow for inclusion.

Also we have to consider what has the highest priority; informing
people or the information being free in all aspects. I agree with
Andre that there is a lot of information that is valid, that is
informative that makes a difference that we will not have as Free as
you would like.

Being dogmatic about it, denies you the opportunity of doing what we
aim to do and what should have priority in my opinion.

Thanks,
   GerardM

On 5/2/06, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2006/5/1, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com>:
>
> > We recognize that the inclusion of this content is a violation of the
> > other half the goal of the project. As a result it is only permitted
> > to include fair use in English wikipedia where doing so compromises
> > our ability to be a quality encyclopedia.
>
> Yet when Wikisource wants to include ND to avoid compromising their
> ability to be a source of original texts, you do not want to allow
> them to do so? Also, does this statement mean that you are of the
> opinion that the German Wikipedia, which does not allow fair use in
> any form whatsoever, is not a quality encyclopedia?
>
> As for texts that actually are under an ND license and that people
> would want on Wikisource: What about the GNU/FDL license itself?
> Surely, even if Wikimedia itself were under a different license, the
> text of the license would be suitable to put on Wikisource? Yet, the
> license of the license reads:
>
> Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
> of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
>
> ND, in other words.
>
>
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