[Foundation-l] Re: Business cards

Wed Mar 16 05:58:06 UTC 2005

Christopher Mahan a écrit:
> --- notafish <notafishz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>OK, sorry for digging out old conversations, I've been dead for the
>>past 5 days, and just resurrected for a few hours. So here goes.
>>
>>
>>>>This said, I stand up to my opinion that mentions of stewards
>>>
>>or
>>
>>>>arbitrators of the english AC has basically nothing to do here.
>>>
>>These
>>
>>>>positions do not exist in the real world. They mean nothing to
>>>
>>those
>>
>>>>outside wikipedia. They are unrelated to the Foundation itself.
>>>
>>And
>>
>>>>they are only part of the status existing on the projects.
>>>
>>>Well, there are apparently plans to form Arbitration Committees
>>
>>on other
>>
>>>language versions of Wikipedia, so it's not en:-centric (or not
>>
>>intended to
>>
>>>be). Thus Arbitrator status, and certainly, of course, Stewards,
>>
>>are
>>
>>>Wikimedia-project-wide, and the people who will receive these
>>
>>cards will
>>
>>>understand that they confer extra 'status' of some kind, as you
>>
>>say. Neither
>>
>>>job are particularly easy to do, and a small amount of thanks
>>
>>like this is
>>
>>>perhaps not a bad thing.
>>
>>Having a card, imho, has nothing to do with getting any thanks for
>>a
>>job well done within wikipedia or any other project, but more about
>>having (or not having) a right to speak about certain matters with
>>a
>>more or less official position. Arbitrators, Stewards are all, as
>>Anthere pointed out, positions within the projects, but not
>>positions
>>that mean that you have a right to talk about the Moogle Deal of
>>the
>>Fahoo proposition or a right to sell Wikipedia and all other
>>projects
>>to the next Moohoo buyer who comes along. Of course, I am going a
>>bit
>>far, here, but this is what a "card" could entitle to do.
>>
>>So no, they should not be given out as thanks, but as an exact
>>description of who does what in the Wikimedia Foundation and
>>projects,
>>and who can say "we" when talking about the Foundation, or
>>Wikimedia
>>Deutschland, or Wikimedia France. People in general, journalists in
>>particular, are very wary of who their source is, but will be
>>fooled
>>by a little square of paper. A "business card" gives a credibility
>>that some of us certainly do not have, and some of us certainly do
>>not
>>deserve. So let us be careful when handing out those "cards".
> 
> 
> Samples of titles:
> 
> Wikipedia Administrator
> Wikimedia Software Developer
> Wikimedia Senior Systems Engineer
> Contributing Editor
> Arbitration Committee Panelist 2005
> WikiNews Freelance Photographer
> and so on.
> 
> I see nothing in there that says they can speak 'for' the foundation.
> There should be a link to Wikimedia Foundation's formal contacts on
> each card, like this: www.wikimedia.com/press and an explanation on
> that page of what cards there are, who has them, and so on. This will
> allow the press people to understand who the cardbearer is and what
> they do.

you forgot mediators.

But I think that for press curiosity, it would be interesting to have a 
couple of very short pages to define this.

Ant