[Foundation-l] Re: Google Techtalk

Mon Aug 15 12:14:30 UTC 2005

Walter van Kalken wrote:

>
>>  left the project if they had been treated the same way. My side of 
>> the equation is that this needs to stop for any future cooperation to 
>> be viable. Conflicts should be resolved in private first before they 
>> are carried out on a public mailing list.
>>
> Usually conflicts become public because one of the sides feels he 
> doesn't have to respond privately. Same like the conflict between me 
> and GerardM which raged on privately, it didn't get solved. I took it 
> public and unfortunately it still isn't solved.
>
> Waerth/Walter

Hoi Walter,
There is not much to discuss when you state publicly that you do not 
trust me. Nobody in the nl-wikipedia community has given as much 
information on what I am doing. You have said things that are not 
acceptable to me. You expressed for instance that we should stop the 
Kennisnet partnership because I am involved in that. I have mentioned an 
idea of yours and I acknowledged it as such that was discussed in a 
brainstorm session at Kennisnet and was accused of stealing your idea.

When you spout this kind of nonsense you will not get a solution. You 
have to appreciate that I am doing a lot of work and I am not beholden 
to anyone. Yes, I very much communicate about what I do. You accuse me 
of not "listening" to the community and what I hear is that I have to do 
things in the way that you want me to. After Wikimania, I was the only 
one who wrote about this event in the Dutch language, there were many 
people from the Netherlands.

I wished you opened your eyes and look at what I do and what issues that 
I raise. You will find that they have little to do with the nl-wikipedia 
itself and that I am more about other things. I care deeply for Commons, 
I care deeply for Wiktionary, I care deeply that information will be 
free. People in the Netherlands are only 16.000.000, the expertice 
Kennisnet builds in using the Wiki is relevant to all people. A great 
lexicological resource will be there for everyone. A localised Commons 
means Free images for everyone.

 From my perspective I would love to see more of your great ideas like 
the scholarship for students, the idea of having a better way of 
infoming on statistics. However, your continued sniping that we have 
conflict will not solve a thing. If you want to cooperate with me, if 
you want to talk with me you need to do just that. This ignoring me like 
you have done over the last few months does not help. It is easy to 
understand that you do not read everything what I write because you do 
not have an interest. If you however decide that I must be up to no good 
because I do not contunually  inform you or the nl-wikipedia crowd about 
it than you are very much mistaken. I am very accessible, you can find 
me on IRC, on skype people and can send me mail. If you do not read what 
I write and if you do not want to ask, who is to blame for the problem 
that you have with me but yourself ??

Thanks,
    GerardM